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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:30:00 -
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As for the reference CCP made about Data Cores:
CCP said they were looking into increasing the amount of Research Point's needed for civilians to redeem Data Cores and maybe even have a small ISK fee included with the redemption.
As a civilian I have a problem with that considering there was a lot of time spent training up skills and building up standings to access high level R&D Agents. As such, I don't think there should be any change done to the civilian cost and I'm certain a lot of other civilians would also agree with that.
FYI - Data Cores from R&D Agents are not a big ISK printing press. The amount of ISK gained by selling Data Cores in market is extremely low when compared to the amount of time it took to acquire those Data Cores. This is not something that enables players to get rich quick. I don't know where CCP got the idea that it's an ATM machine but they are obviously mistaken.
CCP said they are looking to increase rewards for Factional Warfare players by adding Data Cores to the FW LP Store at a reduced rate compared to the civilian cost. Right now the cost of items in the FW LP Store is roughly about 60% of the regular LP Store cost. With the current revision plans pertaining to FW LP's, those Data Cores will be very cheap for Militia members.
I don't see a problem with FW LP Stores selling Data Cores at a reduced rate compared to the civilian cost. However, I think the FW Data Cores should also require the appropriate Science skills for redemption. If not, I imagine there will be some rage threads posted about that. If CCP plans on retiring R&D Agents, then an option to reimburse Research Project Management skill points should be offered to civilians. The rest of the Science skills are still needed for invention and manufacturing. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.28 18:17:00 -
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Xython wrote:The problem is, people aren't doing datacore farming for datacores, but as a source of free money.
3x Datacore Farming Alts that are also PI Alts at the same time = enough money for a PLEX or Two a Month, as I understand it. The fact it took them this long to fix such a horrific isk faucet is kinda sad.
There's nothing free about it and it takes a lot of invested time and ISK to buy and train up skills as well as grind up standings for access.
I have 5 high level R&D Agents available and after 4 months have gained enough points to make about 150 mill to 200 mill ISK max. I have to travel round to all R&D Agents, redeem the points, transport the Data Cores to market and then decide on quick sell or play the .01 ISK market game. Either way it's not an ISK printing press or ATM machine.
Basically the amount of ISK gained through Data Cores for that character can only buy one PLEX per year. I only have this one character on my account specialized to access R&D Agents. Not everyone has 3x Data Core farming alts nor does everyone do Planetary Interaction, I certainly don't.
Hell, I gain more Data Cores within one day from doing exploration than what I get from all my R&D agents within one week. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1867
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Posted - 2012.04.29 17:08:00 -
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clixor wrote:Lictor Yeva wrote:The thing is, a lot of us researchers have trained our characters specifically for the purpose of research agents and have no other use for them.
You know you could use the invested SP into good use right? With little additional training you have a good inventor. But anyway, first of all, we're talking about the RACIAL DC, so changes would effect only a small portion of the agents. Second, the DC markets are pretty stable. So in this case we're not talking about something that is broken.
Guess you missed the part where CCP Soundwave talked about increasing the amount of research points needed to redeem Data Cores and possibly adding an ISK fee on top of that. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:32:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:
We want to move T2 production more towards low and zero-sec. This gives us a very cool venue for FW to influence the rest of the universe instead of being a closed-loop system.
WTF?
How much more ISK control does null sec need?
Basically what I see here is just more favoritism being shown towards null sec by nerfing high sec once again.
Why don't you just hurry up and turn high sec into low sec, get rid of concord and turn low sec into SoV since this is what you and null sec Alliances want to do anyway.
This is supposed to be a fun game that allows players the option to do whatever they want where ever they want. It's supposed to be fun. Being dictated to and told how I'm supposed to play this game is not fun. These constant fail plans of yours trying to push players into low sec only drives more players from the game.
You're just pushing players closer and closer into selling off their characters, closing out their accounts and spending their hard earned real life money on some other game that's more fun to play.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:14:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:CCP Soundwave can you answer this: 1. Are people who have spent months training the now fairly useless R&D skills, going to be compensated with SP reallocation, 2. and are people like me, who have spent weeks grinding the now fairly useless lvl 4 R&D agents, going to get a chance to reallocate their standings? Probably not. |
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